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what year does man first step set foot on Mars? I think the soonest would be 29. 29? Yes, and I don't think it's more than two to four years beyond that. And that's not an unmanned, that's a human being putting his foot on the surface. Yes, best case would be 29. And what do you put the odds of finding either alien life or evidence of alien life? I don't think we're gonna find aliens, okay? But do we find ruins, do we find remnants? We may find the ruins of a long dead alien civilization, that's possible. And we may find subterranean microbial life, that's possible. Alright, if man lands on Mars in 29, how soon after that do you land on Mars? Remains to be seen, I'm not sure. The important thing is that we build a self-sustaining city on Mars as quickly as possible. The key threshold is when that city can continue to grow, continue to prosper, even when the supply ships from Earth stop coming. At that point, even if something would happen on Earth, it might not be World War 3, but it might be that a bad virus. Yeah, no, yeah, it might not be anything. What I'm saying is like, say civilization could die with a bang or a whimper. It may be that civilization dies with a whimper rather than a bang, or simply loses the ability to send ships to Mars. But so you obviously need Mars to become self-sustaining and be able to grow by itself before the resupply ships from Earth stop coming. That is the critical civilization threshold beyond which the probable lifespan of civilization is much greater. And how close are we technologically to be able to do that, to have a self-sustaining settlement on the surface of Mars? I think it can be done in 20 years.