STITCH INCOMING oysters & mussels are NOT vegan

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Summary

The video discusses the ethical considerations of veganism, specifically addressing whether oysters and mussels are considered vegan. One speaker argues that veganism is about avoiding animal exploitation due to sentience, and since bivalves lack a central nervous system and are not considered sentient, eating them is not exploitation. The other speaker counters that the definition of veganism is simply not eating animals, regardless of sentience, and that classifying bivalves as animals makes eating them unethical.

Structure

1Introduction of the topic: oysters and mussels are not vegan.
2Explanation of why bivalves are not considered vegan (lack of central nervous system, not sentient).
3Questioning the definition of veganism: is it about sentience or simply not eating animals?
4Argument that sentience is the key difference between plants and animals, justifying not eating animals.
5Counter-argument that the definition of veganism is simply not eating animals, and that bivalves are classified as animals, making their consumption unethical.
6Conclusion that the difference is sentience, and that's why vegans don't eat animals.

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READ: I don’t care about the “technical” definition of veganism and the technicality that bivalves are categorically animals. I care about the ethical argument- the question shouldn’t be “are bivalves vegan?” But rather, “is it ethical to consume bivalves”. The MAIN REASON for my (and many other people’s) veganism is that the great majority of animals (minus bivalves) are SENTIENT and have the capacity to feel pain, to suffer and to know what’s going on. So when the science suggests that bivalves are NOT sentient, I don’t see why it is ethically wrong to consume bivalves when sentience is literally the justification we ALWAYS USE as a vegan community to eat plants and avoid eating animals … Anyway, absolutely ZERO hate to this creator, i prob agree with her like 95% of the time but just had to chime in for this one #vegan #bivalves #veganism #vegantalks

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STITCH INCOMING oysters & mussels are NOT vegan oysters and mussels are not vegan @maggi oysters and mussels don't have central nervous systems @maggieeatsvegan they are still animals they are not plants WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ANIMALS AND PLANTS THAT MAKES IT MORALLY OKAY FOR US TO EAT PLANTS BUT NOT ANIMALS? IS IT SIMPLY THE FACT THAT WE CLASSIFY ANIMALS AS ANIMALS OR IS IT BECAUSE ANIMALS HAVE SENTIENCE? I GO WITH THE LATTER. ANIMALS *most animals except bivalves ARE SENTIENT BEINGS, WHICH IS WHY VEGANS DON'T EAT THIS IS NOT THIS CONVERSATION TO ME BECAUSE I FEEL OTHER CASE, VEGANS MAKE SO MUCH LOGICAL SENSE. BUT WITH THIS VEGANS LITERALLY JUST GO TO DON'T EAT ANIMALS. LIKE IF YOU COMMENTS UNDER THAT THERE'S ACTUALLY A LOT OF COMMENTS POSITION. THERE'S VERY WELL THOUGHT OUT RESPONSES. AND THEN THE RESPONSE BACK IS WELL, VEGANS DON'T EAT ANIMALS. IT'S GIVING SPECIESIST LIKE IT GENUINELY SOUNDS KIND OF SAYS, WELL, HUMANS DESERVE BETTER TREATMENT BECAUSE WE'RE HUMAN OR WE SHOULDN'T EAT DOGS BECAUSE THESE ARE CIRCULAR YOU ARE JUST STATING A FACT. SO WHEN YOU SAY VEGANS DON'T EAT ANIMALS BECAUSE THEY'RE ANIMALS AND THAT SENTIMENT IS IRRELEVANT, THAT'S INSANE TO ME. SENTIMENT IS THE MOST RELEVANT THING IN THIS CONVERSATION. IF A NON YOU, WHY IS IT OKAY TO EAT PLANTS? PLANTS FEEL PAIN TOO. WE'VE ALL HEARD IT. OKAY, WHAT IS THE RESPONSE? WHAT DO YOU SAY BACK? YOU SAY PLANTS CENTRAL NERVOUS SYSTEM, PLANTS DON'T FEEL PAIN, PLANTS DO NOT HAVE SENTIENCE, THEREFORE IT'S OKAY TO EAT PLANTS. THAT'S LITERALLY THE REASON WHY I VEGANS ARE VEGAN BECAUSE WE LEARNT THAT THE MAIN THING THAT WE COMMON, LIKE 99% OF ANIMALS, NOT ALL, IN COMMON IS SENTIENCE. THAT IS THE MAIN DIFFERENCE PLANTS AND ANIMALS THAT MAKES IT OKAY TO YOU EAT PLANTS BUT NOT ANIMALS. SO WHY SUDDENLY ARE WE FLIPPING TO SIMPLY A CATEGORICAL DIFFERENCE? VEGANISM ISN'T ABOUT LIKE CAN THEY FEEL PAIN IT'S ABOUT ANIMAL EXPLOITATION AND EATING AN OYSTER OR A MUSSEL WOULD BE ANIMAL EXPLOITATION IS NOT CONSIDERED EXPLOITATION WHEN WE EAT PLANTS AND IT'S CONSIDERED EXPLOITATION WHEN WE EAT ANIMALS? WHY? BECAUSE THE DIFFERENCE IS SENTIENCE. ANIMALS HAVE SENTIENCE SO WE CAN EXPLOIT ANIMALS, THEM SUFFER, THEY CAN FEEL PAIN. OTHER HAND ARE THEREFORE WE DO NOT SAY WE EXPLOIT PLANTS WHEN WE EAT PLANTS. THE DIFFERENCE IS NOT A CATEGORICAL IT IS A DIFFERENCE IN SENTIENCE. THAT'S WHY WE DON'T EAT ANIMALS, NOT BECAUSE THEY ARE CLASSIFIED AS YOU CAN'T ON ONE HAND SAY PLANTS DON'T FEEL PAIN SO IT'S PLANTS, SAY IT'S UNETHICAL TO EAT BIVALVES EVEN THOUGH THEY BECAUSE THEY ARE CLASSIFIED AS ANIMALS. THAT IS CONTRADICTORY, RIGHT? ANYWAY, THAT'S MY

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oysters & mussels are not vegan oysters and mussels are not vegan oysters and mussels don't have central nervous systems they are still animals they are not plants WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ANIMALS AND PLANTS THAT MAKES IT MORALLY OKAY FOR US TO EAT PLANTS BUT NOT ANIMALS? IS IT SIMPLY THE FACT THAT WE CLASSIFY ANIMALS AS ANIMALS OR IS IT BECAUSE ANIMALS HAVE SENTIENCE? I GO WITH THE LATTER. ANIMALS *most animals except bivalves ARE SENTIENT BEINGS, WHICH IS WHY VEGANS DON'T EAT THIS IS NOT A HATE VIDEO, BUT THIS CONVERSATION TO ME BECAUSE I FEEL OTHER CASE, VEGANS MAKE SO MUCH LOGICAL SENSE. BUT WITH THIS VEGANS LITERALLY JUST GO TO DON'T EAT ANIMALS. LIKE IF YOU COMMENTS UNDER THAT THERE'S ACTUALLY A LOT OF COMMENTS POSITION. THERE'S VERY WELL THOUGHT OUT RESPONSES. AND THEN THE RESPONSE BACK IS WELL, VEGANS DON'T EAT ANIMALS. IT'S GIVING SPECIESIST LIKE IT GENUINELY SOUNDS KIND OF SAYS, WELL, HUMANS DESERVE BETTER TREATMENT BECAUSE WE'RE HUMAN OR WE SHOULDN'T EAT DOGS BECAUSE THESE ARE CIRCULAR YOU ARE JUST STATING A FACT. SO WHEN YOU SAY VEGANS DON'T EAT ANIMALS BECAUSE THEY'RE ANIMALS AND THAT SENTIMENT IS IRRELEVANT, THAT'S INSANE TO ME. SENTIMENT IS THE MOST RELEVANT THING IN THIS CONVERSATION. IF A NON YOU, WHY IS IT OKAY TO EAT PLANTS? PLANTS FEEL PAIN TOO. WE'VE ALL HEARD IT. OKAY, WHAT IS THE RESPONSE? WHAT DO YOU SAY BACK? YOU SAY PLANTS CENTRAL NERVOUS SYSTEM, PLANTS DON'T FEEL PAIN, PLANTS DO NOT HAVE SENTIENCE, THEREFORE IT'S OKAY TO EAT PLANTS. THAT'S LITERALLY THE REASON WHY I VEGANS ARE VEGAN BECAUSE WE LEARNT THAT THE MAIN THING THAT WE COMMON, LIKE 99% OF ANIMALS, NOT ALL, IN COMMON IS SENTIENCE. THAT IS THE MAIN DIFFERENCE PLANTS AND ANIMALS THAT MAKES IT OKAY TO YOU EAT PLANTS BUT NOT ANIMALS. SO WHY SUDDENLY ARE WE FLIPPING TO SIMPLY A CATEGORICAL DIFFERENCE? VEGANISM ISN'T ABOUT LIKE CAN THEY FEEL PAIN IT'S ABOUT ANIMAL EXPLOITATION AND EATING AN OYSTER OR A MUSSEL WOULD BE ANIMAL EXPLOITATION IS NOT CONSIDERED EXPLOITATION WHEN WE EAT PLANTS AND IT'S CONSIDERED EXPLOITATION WHEN WE EAT ANIMALS? WHY? BECAUSE THE DIFFERENCE IS SENTIENCE. ANIMALS HAVE SENTIENCE SO WE CAN EXPLOIT ANIMALS, THEM SUFFER, THEY CAN FEEL PAIN. OTHER HAND ARE THEREFORE WE DO NOT SAY WE EXPLOIT PLANTS WHEN WE EAT PLANTS. THE DIFFERENCE IS NOT A CATEGORICAL IT IS A DIFFERENCE IN SENTIENCE. THAT'S WHY WE DON'T EAT ANIMALS, NOT BECAUSE THEY ARE CLASSIFIED AS YOU CAN'T ON ONE HAND SAY PLANTS DON'T FEEL PAIN SO IT'S PLANTS, SAY IT'S UNETHICAL TO EAT BIVALVES EVEN THOUGH THEY BECAUSE THEY ARE CLASSIFIED AS ANIMALS. THAT IS CONTRADICTORY, RIGHT? ANYWAY, THAT'S MY