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What what are your migration numbers 130,000 130,000 of what net migration in the country so we that's it it's not gonna move from that your net migration those people who we you can come into the country we're gonna give you a permanent residency that you can move on to citizenship that's at 130,000 that's at 130,000 you can have your PALM workers you can have your visa holders in different ones in the country the foreign students the people they bring in the graduates postgraduates all their families they bring in that needs to be cut back so what do you need to do is you have a set figure but it's not a set figure if you also don't have a cap on your visas yeah visas are gonna be looked at but see visa holders are totally different category we're talking about permanent residents that are going to move on to citizenship in the country so your visas are totally different so it's more than 130,000 correct because your PALM workers rural and regional Australia would die if they didn't have the workers coming in and especially the abattoirs and the farmers so that's a different program these people are given accommodation by the farming sector and the businesses that employ them so that's not that's not the big impact here but then with immigration you can't just tie it you can't just tie it to your housing because infrastructure is another big thing and hospitals and schools and the nursing homes that has to be all accounted for so it's just not about houses so was David Farley wrong or right this week? David Farley was he didn't understand he got confused about the visa holders because he went on to say PALM workers as I've always said PALM workers is the visa holders that can come into the country