Side projects part 6

Then, then you just download a free, you know, wireframing tool. It could be uh figma, it could be um I don't know if Adobe XD is still a thing since Adobe bought figma, but Adobe XD was free for a long time. Um, you know, you could use sketch or Balsamic, whatever. So draw some type of wire frame or a quick little mock up of what your interaction would look like across the app. It doesn't have to be pretty, it doesn't have to be beautiful, it doesn't have to be anything. just to, you know, it could even be on a piece of paper. And that's when you go back again to this core set of of folks that has been helping you, you've developed a relationship with these business owners and you validate your designs. Like here's here's how it would look, here's step by step how it would look. You know, then you start to ask like, would you would you be willing to pay for this?