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Kristin Cavallari had one of the most interesting characters from the early 2000s to now and watching that play out over time since I was younger watching Laguna Beach and the Hills and stuff is like she always had a very direct personality and I don't care attitude which I get. Um, and one thing, you know, seeing her, you know, newer show, Very Cavallari, and watching her try to grow a business and managing staff and having a business built on like aesthetics and lifestyle and like the behind the scenes of an e-commerce brand in real life. I mean, some of it does feel played out for TV, but like a lot of it seemed pretty real and showing like the unsexy parts of managing and like talent and like, you know, the less glamorous side to a two-week glamorous business. Like that was really interesting and it showed like how real the stakes are in like e-commerce and retail business, dealing with social media management and PR and like packaging and logistics. Like she really showed like how serious those things were and then one thing that surprised me like her skill when it comes to um, interior design, brand design, like building a brand, even from just an aesthetic point of view and like marketing, product, products and styling. Like I think she has a super crazy eye for that. Um, that's one thing that gets overlooked with celebrities, we think it's just like, you know, off-boarded to like a team, but I think watching that show and making me realize like, no, like she has an incredible eye for, um, interior design and lifestyle design as opposed to just fashion itself or decor itself. Like I think she has a super, um, strong grasp on just lifestyle and designing a world. Like now they call it like world building, but I think she was like super, super early and like tapped into that when that show came out and gave me a lot of insights to like how they run that kind of business. Even though like obviously a lot of stuff is like fluff for, uh, TV, but, um, super interesting show, you know, super interesting to see her character arc from how she was on Laguna Beach to being a serious business person. Um, it's really interesting.